Natep
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Ah, yes. The bygone days of rolling seeds into our joints. So many memories... and so many ruined shirts. Sweet nostalgia.(ka boom)
let it finish, harvest, dry, cure, and enjoy the fruits of your labor.I found a couple herm plants in my grow. I should have been watching closer with untested strain. Exotic genetics blueberry Gary 3 out of 6 feminized seeds Hermes. Problem is it has pollinated my grow and everything has seeds. So question is what do I do with it now. Grow is about 4 weeks in to flower full of seeds. Do I just cut it down? Or do I let it mature and harvest? If I harvest it do I just freeze it and turn it to fresh frozen hash and press it into live resin? Or try and salvage some of it? Any thoughts would be appreciated.
let it mature and harvest, you'll get a bunch a fem seed. weed that will most prolly taste good and with still provide an enjoyable high
main downside is to carefully pregrind with hand before putting anything into the grinder to remove seeds and rare unmature seeds wich taste bad if grinded.
The kind of hermie matters here. Breeders not understanding that are why so many fem seeds were just genetic hermies 10-15+ years ago.
Do not grow seeds produced by genetic hermies producing fully formed male flowers down low. Dont. Toss em. That is NOT the kind of hermie you want to be making fem seed with. Those plants have XXy chromosome sets (double-x/y) Not XX. Every consecutive generation grown from such seeds will produce more, and more male flowers.
If they are bare, petal-less male stamen higher up in the canopy of the plant, then youve made fem seeds.
Personally when i make fem seeds, i use plants i have stress tested to confirm will not even hermie under intense stress. Then i will hormone interrupt that plant to force it to make XX pollen.
Doing anything less is intentionally selecting for higher rates of stress hermie. And using genetic hermie pollen is a nearly guaranteed way to destroy the genetics of your other lineages too tbh.
every single time ive grown genetic (plants without a stress trigger, ones that make *fully formed male flowers down low, that includes stem, petiole, sepal, petals, anther and stamen*... not just a cluster of stamen with a mutated petal wedged in a bunch of female flowers*.) hermie seeds from pollen produced in fully formed flowers down low on a plant, every single seed i grew did the same thing. And about 15 years ago this was a constant, rampant problem with european breeders selling in the USA.it depend the kind off hermie, and how sever it hermied, at wich stage, during flowering stretch, at the end of flowering etc.
if it hermied locally from lite environnemental stress botom of canopy first few week of flower on nodes, you can definetly grow thoose seeds, it's exagerated to say that the chance for more hermie popping over one generation are that higher, chance to get 100% females won't be especially lower than the previous generation if you grow seeds in large amount you'll notice this easily
every single time ive grown genetic hermie seeds from pollen produced in fully formed flowers down low on a plant, every single seed i grew did the same thing. And about 15 years ago this was a constant, rampant problem with european breeders selling in the USA.
A healthy plant will not hermie in early flower unless its genetic. There has to be a very significant stress factor involved for that to happen. And those arent fully formed male flowers either when that happens. Sometimes they will make some petals, sometimes even a stamen cluster, but they are not full formed male shoots down low onthe plant. Which is actually super uncommon now a days.
It is absolutely 100% not as simple as *you have fem seeds now* and telling someone that at a glance over a hermie plant is just poor misleading advice imho. Especially if they had 4/6 early flower hermies with no obvious stressors involved. (and no, light leaks isnt one of those potential stressors, thats breeder "hide my shady breeding practice" misinformation 100%)
small and inconsistent light leaks dont cause hermies, thats also genetics. If your plant hermies from a small light leaks alone, it was going to hermie anyway, probably no matter what you did. Full moons, and clouds and stuff... These plants were evolving along side small light leaks since long before our species even existed.
It took me a while to have fem seeds that wont hermie, it was not easy, it took like 10 years. Its genetics, promise. even if stress caused it, the genetics allowed it.
Thats fine, just know if you keep regrowing succesive generations of those seeds, that trait will become more prevelant over time. It does with all hermies tbh, just with some to a higher degree then others and bare stamen will become balls will become fully formed male flowers with inbreeding those genetics, thats just how that works. Some land races have a higher chance of hermie, because their initial lineage that form,ed the land race was less diverse (i.e. more inbreeding) If the plants get as far as making full male flowers down low, you need to trash that lineage. Seriously. Not doing so, across a large scale, is is currently happening, can genuinely damage the future genetic potential of the plant we love so much.i edited a little before you quoted:
"you can definetly grow thoose seeds and get enjoyable weed to smoke."
having enjoyable weed to smoke is my point mostly i don't care about a few ball or seeds if the weed still taste good enough and is potent enough. i m not advising to breed those seeds over many generations. just saying that first generation of hermie is still good enough to grow eventually and enjoy.
concerning my case i suppose little airflow and low light penetration bottom of the canopy cause a few single balls to pop on preflower nodes the first few weeks of flower, happen with a few strain not all, and never all phenotypes, from one to half a batch of seeds usually.
also some landrace strain like marrocan beldia and some other strains are known to carry the hermie trait more than some others.
Nope.Anybody else see a correlation there? More prone to herm the longer it takes to pre flower, under high stresses?
7 years this is my first herm. No stress just bad genetics.
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