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Thanks for all that.“rain water isn’t good with living soil as the TDS ppm is too low and the plant can’t take up the nutrients”
I cannot believe anyone would print a statement like this peace of stupidity!
If this where true there would not be a plant anyplace.
Frankly rain water is the best water you can provide your plant.
The problem is not the water. The problem is guys mixing up peat moss, worm castings and bat crap then calling it living soil.
There may be a few microbes in it but this is not living soil. You could stretch it and cal it organic as it's ingredients are all organic but it is not a living soil.
Living soil is Composted garden matter, sand, top soil, manor, All of the local microscopic life in the soil to break down the compost and manor into plant available nutrients.
Top picture. See the way the leaves are cupping. This is light stress. The yellow leaves dropping is your plant telling you it's hungry for nitrogen. Your plant is light stressed and hungry.
When growing in living soil we must use very large pots in order to have enough living microbial life creating food for a rather hungry plant.
Even then growing living soil in large pots one must know what to feed the soil and super charge the microbial life within the soil buy
1) Growing and adding microbes.
2) JLF
3) Then utilize things like wood ash.
Garden like a viking.
Garden Like a Viking
The time is now to reawaken the spirit of our ancestors and grow food using ancient techniques that enrich the land instead of depleting it. Send Packages To: Garden Like A Viking P.O. Box 9101 Fort Wayne, Indiana, 46899www.youtube.com
Hope this helps you.
Yep! That's a dumb thing to say. Rainwater wouldn't have any dissolved minerals, so they'll need to be amended. So, Azomite is likely to be helpful. Testing the pH could be helpful. If I worried about anything, it might be pollutants from contact with the air.“rain water isn’t good with living soil as the TDS ppm is too low and the plant can’t take up the nutrients”
I cannot believe anyone would print a statement like this peace of stupidity!
Definitely try and find some stuff on your own : ) but you will not piss anyone off by asking your questions here. Or at least not enough for them to say anything. And if they do (non moderator who gives a fuckI have many questions but I’m trying to learn from the information already here on the forums so I don’t piss people off asking things that have already been answered.
HiYep! That's a dumb thing to say. Rainwater wouldn't have any dissolved minerals, so they'll need to be amended. So, Azomite is likely to be helpful. Testing the pH could be helpful. If I worried about anything, it might be pollutants from contact with the air.
I don't use CalMag. Instead, I use gypsum (calcium sulfate) and Epsom Salt (magnesium sulfate). I add Epsom Salt to the irrigation water, and that's fast. I have fewer problems with calcium deficiency, so I top dress the gypsum with the other nutrients, including some Epsom Salt. That seems to solve magnesium deficiency problems for me. Problems with excess magnesium seem to be rare.At which point I was worried that a synthetic cal/mag (is there an organic fast acting alternative? I’ve got garden lime and gypsum but won’t they take a few days or longer to break down?) would kill off the microbes in the soil.
... or other trace elements the plants need.The fact that straight up rain water wouldn’t contain any calcium or magnesium
How often are you adding Epsom salt to your water and what quantities are we talking?I don't use CalMag. Instead, I use gypsum (calcium sulfate) and Epsom Salt (magnesium sulfate). I add Epsom Salt to the irrigation water, and that's fast. I have fewer problems with calcium deficiency, so I top dress the gypsum with the other nutrients, including some Epsom Salt. That seems to solve magnesium deficiency problems for me. Problems with excess magnesium seem to be rare.
Although agricultural lime has magnesium, it also tends to raise pH. Gypsum, on the other hand, doesn't affect pH, and that's why I use it.
I don't know about the effect on microbes, but tend to doubt there'd be problems with normal doses of nutrients.
I add it dry when I mix soil or top dress. Then I watch the leaves for interveinal chlorosis, which I interpret as the plant needing more than I added to the soil. I mix 1 tablespoon of Epsom Salt per 1 gallon of water. Be aware that other deficiencies can cause chlorosis. It's just that Mg deficiency is the most likely, in my experience. If adding it doesn't help, then there's probably some other problem.How often are you adding Epsom salt to your water and what quantities are we talking?
Oh, you're welcome. I hope this helps.Thanks for the info
Take a good look at this amendment. It is just what you are looking for. I meant to post it earlier for you but got side tracked looking after my own day. Hope this helps.Thanks for all that.
I guess I’m the guy who fell for the bat shit and worm castings sales bit.
It’s looking like true living soil is not the way forward for me at the moment as I just don’t have the space to compost enough of my own materials.
What would you suggest as a fix for this now?
I have bottled synthetic nutrients I used on my first grow, if I use them to get the plant fed what ratio would you use? Is it ok to give high nitrogen while in flower?
Thanks again
Thanks for the vidsTake a good look at this amendment. It is just what you are looking for. I meant to post it earlier for you but got side tracked looking after my own day. Hope this helps.
Gaia Green.
I also cannot believe that“rain water isn’t good with living soil as the TDS ppm is too low and the plant can’t take up the nutrients”
I cannot believe anyone would print a statement like this peace of stupidity!
If this where true there would not be a plant anyplace.
Frankly rain water is the best water you can provide your plant.
The problem is not the water. The problem is guys mixing up peat moss, worm castings and bat crap then calling it living soil.
There may be a few microbes in it but this is not living soil. You could stretch it and cal it organic as it's ingredients are all organic but it is not a living soil.
Living soil is Composted garden matter, sand, top soil, manor, All of the local microscopic life in the soil to break down the compost and manor into plant available nutrients.
Top picture. See the way the leaves are cupping. This is light stress. The yellow leaves dropping is your plant telling you it's hungry for nitrogen. Your plant is light stressed and hungry.
When growing in living soil we must use very large pots in order to have enough living microbial life creating food for a rather hungry plant.
Even then growing living soil in large pots one must know what to feed the soil and super charge the microbial life within the soil buy
1) Growing and adding microbes.
2) JLF
3) Then utilize things like wood ash.
Garden like a viking.
Garden Like a Viking
The time is now to reawaken the spirit of our ancestors and grow food using ancient techniques that enrich the land instead of depleting it. Send Packages To: Garden Like A Viking P.O. Box 9101 Fort Wayne, Indiana, 46899www.youtube.com
Hope this helps you.
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