Slow Growth ,Slight Wilt, And Wrinkles ??? HELP!!!

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<div class="bbWrapper">What’s your guys opinion on cloning during flower “monster cropping” from what I’ve read. Should do it between 2nd and 3rd week of flower might be a very good option for me and setting up the next run. <span class="username" data-user-id="65930" data-username="@tobh">@tobh</span> <span class="username" data-user-id="125755" data-username="@PK1">@PK1</span></div>
 
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<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 138188" data-quote="MCDOOGLE" data-source="post: 2752340" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=2752340" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-2752340">MCDOOGLE said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> What’s your guys opinion on cloning during flower “monster cropping” from what I’ve read. Should do it between 2nd and 3rd week of flower might be a very good option for me and setting up the next run. <span class="username" data-user-id="65930" data-username="@tobh">@tobh</span> <span class="username" data-user-id="125755" data-username="@PK1">@PK1</span> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Imo waste of time and unneeded stress. But if you can root them then reveg them and have months to spare, go for it.</div>
 
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<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 113217" data-quote="BurnzYzBudZz" data-source="post: 2752342" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=2752342" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-2752342">BurnzYzBudZz said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> <blockquote data-attributes="member: 113217" data-quote="BurnzYzBudZz" data-source="post: 2752342" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=2752342" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-2752342">BurnzYzBudZz said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Imo waste of time and unneeded stress. But if you can root them then reveg them and have months to spare, go for it. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Definitely don’t have months. From the last pic you think I should tie them down or just roll with it ?. Is the stretch really bad or no ? </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote></div>
 
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<div class="bbWrapper">i think you're confused between monster cropping and supercropping. monster cropping is revegging and flipping with all the madness that reveg brings. supercropping is pinching the stems and bending them severely to control the canopy. <br /> <br /> imo supercropping is mandatory pretty much every run. you need to be comfortable with it, and know how to do it right so you don't break branches when you do it.</div>
 
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<div class="bbWrapper">I’ve got quite a bit of stretch but flowering is going well at 2.6 ec and they are soaking it up added pk today as per feed schedule start of week 3 flower <span class="username" data-user-id="125755" data-username="@PK1">@PK1</span> <span class="username" data-user-id="65930" data-username="@tobh">@tobh</span></div>
 
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<div class="bbWrapper">to control the stretch, turn your heat up at night a couple fahrenheit .<br /> i have mine at 82f during lights on and 84f when lights off.</div>
 
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<div class="bbWrapper">Damn here goes this again idk what’s going on two of the same strain are doing fine one just looks sick still in rock wool still hand watering plants on side of it are same strain ph good temp and humidity good they did just wake up but it’s not normal to be that droopy. Block is still moist not completely dry <span class="username" data-user-id="125755" data-username="@PK1">@PK1</span> <span class="username" data-user-id="65930" data-username="@tobh">@tobh</span></div>
 
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<div class="bbWrapper">This pic was from 12 hours ago</div>
 
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<div class="bbWrapper">Maybe something with the roots idk should I just pull it or wait it doesn’t seem to be getting any better over a couple hours. No signs of root rot they all look bright white with no slime I’m afraid I’m gonna lose the whole run <span class="username" data-user-id="65930" data-username="@tobh">@tobh</span></div>
 
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<div class="bbWrapper">looks like the starts of serious nitrogen toxicity to me. 2.6 EC is the last feed level I saw you post, which that's WAY too high imo. The most I ever hit in any system I've ran has been 1.8, and that's pushing the plants hard with all the environmental variables on point.<br /> <br /> to identify what's going on we need more details bud. full run down. use the template again if you need to, I don't want to play 20 questions, so give me the full details. you're not going to lose it, but they're stressed.</div>
 
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<div class="bbWrapper">Well I’m following the Athena feed schedule perfectly. Final weeks of flower call for 3.0ec It most definitely was toxicity I believe and it started to herm I pulled it. I was over zealous thinking I could grow so much for the first time in 10 years . I got the best of myself . I’m starting another 1 plant and going for clones from that. I learned a lot thanks to all of you guys and am very appreciative. I’ll let this run finish up I flushed everything with ph’d RO water trying to avoid another issue. For hand watering and hydro ton I’m thinking I did ok by looks of roots nice and clean no slime <span class="username" data-user-id="65930" data-username="@tobh">@tobh</span> <span class="username" data-user-id="125755" data-username="@PK1">@PK1</span> <div class="bbImageWrapper js-lbImage" title="E763B45D AECB 403A 9305 10668402F0E2" data-src="https://www.thcfarmer.com/attachments/e763b45d-aecb-403a-9305-10668402f0e2-jpeg.1215998/" data-lb-sidebar-href="" data-lb-caption-extra-html="" data-single-image="1"> <img src="https://www.thcfarmer.com/attachments/e763b45d-aecb-403a-9305-10668402f0e2-jpeg.1215998/" data-url="" class="bbImage" data-zoom-target="1" style="" alt="E763B45D AECB 403A 9305 10668402F0E2" title="E763B45D AECB 403A 9305 10668402F0E2" width="900" height="1200" loading="lazy" /> </div><div class="bbImageWrapper js-lbImage" title="F05014CC 4EC0 4769 AF17 FEED11237A88" data-src="https://www.thcfarmer.com/attachments/f05014cc-4ec0-4769-af17-feed11237a88-jpeg.1215997/" data-lb-sidebar-href="" data-lb-caption-extra-html="" data-single-image="1"> <img src="https://www.thcfarmer.com/attachments/f05014cc-4ec0-4769-af17-feed11237a88-jpeg.1215997/" data-url="" class="bbImage" data-zoom-target="1" style="" alt="F05014CC 4EC0 4769 AF17 FEED11237A88" title="F05014CC 4EC0 4769 AF17 FEED11237A88" width="900" height="1200" loading="lazy" /> </div></div>
 
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<div class="bbWrapper">damn... she straight grew a dick on ya. sorry to see that. my nutrient line also recommends super high EC like that, and I call bullshit. there's no reason anyone should ever exceed 2.0 EC. i've yet to see a plant that can take that over decades of growing in different medias.</div>
 
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<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 65930" data-quote="tobh" data-source="post: 2758812" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=2758812" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-2758812">tobh said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> damn... she straight grew a dick on ya. sorry to see that. my nutrient line also recommends super high EC like that, and I call bullshit. there's no reason anyone should ever exceed 2.0 EC. i've yet to see a plant that can take that over decades of growing in different medias. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>I’ll definitely calm it down this next run. Glad I caught it early enough I think</div>
 
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<div class="bbWrapper"><span class="username" data-user-id="125755" data-username="@PK1">@PK1</span> <span class="username" data-user-id="65930" data-username="@tobh">@tobh</span> you guys notice anything that’s screams Hermie <div class="bbImageWrapper js-lbImage" title="06A0919B 6B65 4CC7 B316 A4F0035D63F7" data-src="https://www.thcfarmer.com/attachments/06a0919b-6b65-4cc7-b316-a4f0035d63f7-jpeg.1218280/" data-lb-sidebar-href="" data-lb-caption-extra-html="" data-single-image="1"> <img src="https://www.thcfarmer.com/attachments/06a0919b-6b65-4cc7-b316-a4f0035d63f7-jpeg.1218280/" data-url="" class="bbImage" data-zoom-target="1" style="" alt="06A0919B 6B65 4CC7 B316 A4F0035D63F7" title="06A0919B 6B65 4CC7 B316 A4F0035D63F7" width="900" height="1200" loading="lazy" /> </div></div>
 
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<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 138188" data-quote="MCDOOGLE" data-source="post: 2740708" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=2740708" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-2740708">MCDOOGLE said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Ive got 4 plants, 2 different Strains and 5 weeks old. Started from seed in 1&quot; cube Transplanted into 4&quot; cube. I am feeding 3 times a day 100ml shots. 2 hours after light comes on, mid day, and 2 hours before light shuts off. 18hr light cycle Growers choice ROIe720 that i started out at 25% and have moved it up 35% at height of 36 inches above top of plants. Using full line Athena Blended nutrients. IPM w/ stack drench twice a week during dark times.<br /> Nutrient solution RO water EC 1.6 Temp 68F. Ph 5.6<br /> Tent Temp 76-78F 45% humidity. Good airflow Battling humidity.<br /> No co2 but have fresh outside air<br /> The Plants have weird wrinkles on leaves and plants are droopy some times and seem to have slowed to a crawl in Growth I wonder if I am over watering or under watering?? By 3rd feed 10% run off is achieved. I also topped one plant to experiment Maybe too early. i also weigh before feed usually some where around 120 grams betwwen feeds and 220 grams after each feed of 100 ml They seem to be drinking between feeds. Run off Ec is 3.0- 3.3 after 3rd feed.<a href="https://www.thcfarmer.com/attachments/1203350/" target="_blank">View attachment 1203350</a><a href="https://www.thcfarmer.com/attachments/1203351/" target="_blank">View attachment 1203351</a><a href="https://www.thcfarmer.com/attachments/1203352/" target="_blank">View attachment 1203352</a><a href="https://www.thcfarmer.com/attachments/1203353/" target="_blank">View attachment 1203353</a><a href="https://www.thcfarmer.com/attachments/1203354/" target="_blank">View attachment 1203354</a><a href="https://www.thcfarmer.com/attachments/1203355/" target="_blank">View attachment 1203355</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Just a couple of thoughts. Maybe a bit close to the light? Ive seen this with dosi in veg. I backed it away and it topk off again. Also are you in hydro? You said feed three times a day. If so Id do a quick flush. To me it looks like theyre trying to grow. LIke they are coming out of the dark green transitioning into lime green. DONT OVER THINK IT. Its a plant</div>
 
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<div class="bbWrapper">I can’t tell if they are done and leaves are starting to yellow been flushing for a week now idk.trichs are cloudy on top nugs haven’t noticed anymore resin production either. Swelled up pretty good too. Maybe harvest top nugs first <span class="username" data-user-id="125755" data-username="@PK1">@PK1</span> <span class="username" data-user-id="65930" data-username="@tobh">@tobh</span> <div class="bbImageWrapper js-lbImage" title="CDCEFB14 5611 40B2 B3EC AD45C09D3D1E" data-src="https://www.thcfarmer.com/attachments/cdcefb14-5611-40b2-b3ec-ad45c09d3d1e-jpeg.1226194/" data-lb-sidebar-href="" data-lb-caption-extra-html="" data-single-image="1"> <img src="https://www.thcfarmer.com/attachments/cdcefb14-5611-40b2-b3ec-ad45c09d3d1e-jpeg.1226194/" data-url="" class="bbImage" data-zoom-target="1" style="" alt="CDCEFB14 5611 40B2 B3EC AD45C09D3D1E" title="CDCEFB14 5611 40B2 B3EC AD45C09D3D1E" width="900" height="1200" loading="lazy" /> </div><div class="bbImageWrapper js-lbImage" title="E19CC61E 6725 4FC7 886D CEEC18AEF33F" data-src="https://www.thcfarmer.com/attachments/e19cc61e-6725-4fc7-886d-ceec18aef33f-jpeg.1226193/" data-lb-sidebar-href="" data-lb-caption-extra-html="" data-single-image="1"> <img src="https://www.thcfarmer.com/attachments/e19cc61e-6725-4fc7-886d-ceec18aef33f-jpeg.1226193/" data-url="" class="bbImage" data-zoom-target="1" style="" alt="E19CC61E 6725 4FC7 886D CEEC18AEF33F" title="E19CC61E 6725 4FC7 886D CEEC18AEF33F" width="900" height="1200" loading="lazy" /> </div></div>
 
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<div class="bbWrapper">End of 8th week <span class="username" data-user-id="125755" data-username="@PK1">@PK1</span></div>
 
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