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Sounds like possibly root aphids
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First 5 seconds you can see 2 of these bug I speak of. I'm on a s23 Ultra with 4x zoom just to see them.
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Do you have pets ? you want to chase the bugs away if they can be ? or kill them ?
first as in right now and wrapped around the lower stem of your plants use sticky traps.
To chase awy make one gallon 1 ml mint soap 1ml cooking oil 1ml neem oil.
Spray the plant not the grow medium.
You can use other insects that eat other insects but is you spray then either you chase the good bugs away or kill them.
This can and is used indoor too.
The big gun ....... and its organic if that makes any difference to you is Pyrethrin.
This stuff is in pretty much every insecticide . Your bypassing the watered down versions that the retail stores sale as insect killers . I think allot of gardening centers sale this .
This is only toxic WHEN WET and it doesn't leave residue. Spray your plants.
Spray and get everyone out of the home or grow area for 45 minutes or longer.
If still wet leave and take everyone with you again...
This what i use... problem is if any animal eats the dead insects it could make that animal sick or dead.
Be safe
If the insects are coming from your grow medium stop getting the surface of wet and use the sticky traps.
If they cant get past the sticky traps they cant get to the stem of your plants .
I cannot advise you on what to spray on the top of your grow medium
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no don’t be doing anything until you know exactly what kind of pest,.
probably either a soil mite or root aphid,..
please do not do what @HeadHunterpipes suggested,..
probably either a soil mite or root aphid,..
please do not do what @HeadHunterpipes suggested,..
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With the video I sent is there anything you would recommend me do?
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if you have a jewellers loupe you should be able to tell what pest it is,. look up soil mite first as it’s more common to find them in ffof,.
you have to let the soil dry out before watering again,. marijuana loves wet/dry cycles not wet/moist/wet,.. and that way you’ll keep the soil mite numbers down and have a healthier plant,.. your outdoors and depending on health/strain etc will determine if and how much your plant gets infected with pests and mildew and mold,..
do not spray the plant with anything unless i say so or your on your own,..
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I am in a growtent, I wasn't having any bug problems until I did my transplant into 100% ffof 2 nights ago, I haven't put anything on it and it is relatively dry, how will I get rid off them if I'm not to spray anything on her. She is about 12 days old, this is my first time growing ever and I don't want them to kill my plant. I will do whatever you recommend just please help.
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It is a gorilla candy autoflower
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LOL i guess your picking on me..
Because you said nothing about what else was suggested .. LOL
Systemic Pesticides: Are Your Clones at Risk?
Failed pesticide tests might not be your fault, but they are your responsibility.BRIAN MACIVER | MAY 2017
Eric Limon | Dreamstime.com
In the final days of 2016, Canadian licensed medical marijuana producer (LP) Organigram was rocked with a pesticide scandal: Batches of product made in 2016 tested positive for banned chemicals, including myclobutanil (a systemic pesticide that turns into hydrogen cyanide, a compound the Centers for Disease Control classifies as a chemical warfare agent, when burned).
The company issued a voluntary recall on Dec. 30 and expanded it less than two weeks later. An internal investigation into the matter yielded no conclusive evidence as to how these banned products made it into the cannabis, as Organigram was a certified organic cannabis producer. (The New Brunswick-based company had its certification suspended when news of the contamination broke.)
“The inquiry was thorough and was undertaken with the full cooperation and assistance of Health Canada and outside experts,” said Denis Arsenault, Organigram’s then CEO and now Executive Chairman, in a statement on Feb. 27.
How an LP, government authorities and outside experts were not able to find the source of the contamination is telling of the risks that come with systemic pesticides in the cannabis industry.
How They Work
Systemic pesticides are typically applied as a drench of the growing medium (soil, coco coir, peat moss with perlite, etc.) and are taken in by the plant through the roots, says Raymond Cloyd, a professor at the entomology department at Kansas State University, with specialties in horticultural entomology and plant protection.When the roots take up the chemical, that active ingredient “moves through all the plant parts and, in some cases, it might move in the flowers, depending on the water solubility and general characteristics of that active ingredient,” Cloyd explains.
Myclobutanil is a common systemic fungicide and is used mainly to combat powdery mildew. Once applied to the growing medium, the main ingredient is moved through the plant’s water-conducting tissues (xylem) before being moved to the sugar-transporting tissues (phloem).
According to Cloyd, some of these systemic products may last up to 12 weeks in the plant’s system, which is why they have become a common part of horticulture and agriculture. He says their lasting effect makes them attractive because it “reduces the amount of input from spray applications.”
“However, there’s always an issue of getting into fruit or flower,” he continues, “and that’s why I don’t recommend them for fruits and vegetables, or any crop the fruit or the flower or, in the case of cannabis, the seed heads are going to be used for human inhalation or consumption.”
Low-Level vs. High-Level Contaminations
The very nature of systemic products and their absorption into the plant’s system poses a risk for cultivators who purchase and grow their crops from clones: Cuttings taken from a contaminated mother plant may also test positive for those chemicals.Cloyd predicts that with herbaceous plants (such as cannabis), “if you applied a systemic insecticide … then a week later you take cuttings, depending on the solubility of the systemic ..., it probably would end up in those clones at some concentration.”
Photo courtesy of Steep Hill Labs
Steep Hill Labs, a California-based cannabis testing company, has been investigating pesticide issues in The Golden State. Following an outbreak of contaminated cannabis in California, Reggie Gaudino, vice president of scientific operations and director of intellectual property at Steep Hill, and his team met with growers who swore they never used pesticides, but had contaminated product. Following the thread, his team started testing clones bought from nurseries.
What they found: Pesticides are being used in various ways despite growers and nursery owners saying they were not using chemicals, according to Gaudino.
Steep Hill also discovered it could tell how the pesticide was applied based on the concentration levels and location of the contamination. For example, a low-level contamination in the plant with no contamination in the growing medium (soil or rockwool) would indicate the mother plant was treated with a pesticide, but the clone purchased by the cultivator was not in direct contact with the contaminant.
Likewise, a low-level contamination in both the plant and growing medium can indicate that people might be recycling contaminated soil, Gaudino says.
“Those are the ones that never have to use pesticides ... because you were reusing a constant low-level feed because the soil was already contaminated and, as we know, it sticks around for a while,” he says.
Gaudino says the company’s research has focused on the San Francisco Bay area where it tested more than 50 samples. While the original sample size was relatively small by scientific standards, the findings showed “an overwhelming majority of them had contamination on them,” he says, warranting further study into the matter. In fact, his team was recently approved to acquire clones from the Los Angeles area to start measuring how widespread this problem is.
Other Options
In addition to testing the clones before or immediately after you purchase them, Gaudino suggests an alternative way around this issue: to grow from seeds instead of clones.“That would reduce [the risk] a lot,” he says. “You may still have a little stuff in [the seed coating], but you’re taking a little tiny seed” instead of a cutting from a contaminated mother plant. He also suggests always using new soil and growing materials.
If growing from seed is not possible, Cloyd suggests using beneficial insects instead of chemical pesticides to deal with pest problems. “We have a number of predatory mites that are very effective,” Cloyd says, “Phytoseiulus persimilis is a work horse. … There is a wide gamut of potential biologicals that could be used in a cannabis production system.”
Organigram, for its part, completely revisited its processes following its crisis. In a Feb. 27 press release, the LP announced it now tests all inputs before they are used (growing mediums, fertilizers, water, etc.), has added security cameras to areas that were not previously required to be monitored, and live-tests plants for pesticides and tests again before they head to market, among other changes. Through these steps, company officials are confident this type of situation will not happen again.
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Hey I read everything you said didn't mean to make you think I skipped over it. I bought thisLOL i guess your picking on me..
Because you said nothing about what else was suggested .. LOL
Systemic Pesticides: Are Your Clones at Risk?
Failed pesticide tests might not be your fault, but they are your responsibility.
BRIAN MACIVER | MAY 2017
Eric Limon | Dreamstime.com
In the final days of 2016, Canadian licensed medical marijuana producer (LP) Organigram was rocked with a pesticide scandal: Batches of product made in 2016 tested positive for banned chemicals, including myclobutanil (a systemic pesticide that turns into hydrogen cyanide, a compound the Centers for Disease Control classifies as a chemical warfare agent, when burned).
The company issued a voluntary recall on Dec. 30 and expanded it less than two weeks later. An internal investigation into the matter yielded no conclusive evidence as to how these banned products made it into the cannabis, as Organigram was a certified organic cannabis producer. (The New Brunswick-based company had its certification suspended when news of the contamination broke.)
“The inquiry was thorough and was undertaken with the full cooperation and assistance of Health Canada and outside experts,” said Denis Arsenault, Organigram’s then CEO and now Executive Chairman, in a statement on Feb. 27.
How an LP, government authorities and outside experts were not able to find the source of the contamination is telling of the risks that come with systemic pesticides in the cannabis industry.
How They Work
Systemic pesticides are typically applied as a drench of the growing medium (soil, coco coir, peat moss with perlite, etc.) and are taken in by the plant through the roots, says Raymond Cloyd, a professor at the entomology department at Kansas State University, with specialties in horticultural entomology and plant protection.
When the roots take up the chemical, that active ingredient “moves through all the plant parts and, in some cases, it might move in the flowers, depending on the water solubility and general characteristics of that active ingredient,” Cloyd explains.
Myclobutanil is a common systemic fungicide and is used mainly to combat powdery mildew. Once applied to the growing medium, the main ingredient is moved through the plant’s water-conducting tissues (xylem) before being moved to the sugar-transporting tissues (phloem).
According to Cloyd, some of these systemic products may last up to 12 weeks in the plant’s system, which is why they have become a common part of horticulture and agriculture. He says their lasting effect makes them attractive because it “reduces the amount of input from spray applications.”
“However, there’s always an issue of getting into fruit or flower,” he continues, “and that’s why I don’t recommend them for fruits and vegetables, or any crop the fruit or the flower or, in the case of cannabis, the seed heads are going to be used for human inhalation or consumption.”
Low-Level vs. High-Level Contaminations
The very nature of systemic products and their absorption into the plant’s system poses a risk for cultivators who purchase and grow their crops from clones: Cuttings taken from a contaminated mother plant may also test positive for those chemicals.
Cloyd predicts that with herbaceous plants (such as cannabis), “if you applied a systemic insecticide … then a week later you take cuttings, depending on the solubility of the systemic ..., it probably would end up in those clones at some concentration.”
Reggie Gaudino is the vice president of scientific operations and director of intellectual property at Steep Hill Labs. His days are spent overseeing the genetic and quality testing at the cannabis testing company.
Photo courtesy of Steep Hill Labs
Steep Hill Labs, a California-based cannabis testing company, has been investigating pesticide issues in The Golden State. Following an outbreak of contaminated cannabis in California, Reggie Gaudino, vice president of scientific operations and director of intellectual property at Steep Hill, and his team met with growers who swore they never used pesticides, but had contaminated product. Following the thread, his team started testing clones bought from nurseries.
What they found: Pesticides are being used in various ways despite growers and nursery owners saying they were not using chemicals, according to Gaudino.
Steep Hill also discovered it could tell how the pesticide was applied based on the concentration levels and location of the contamination. For example, a low-level contamination in the plant with no contamination in the growing medium (soil or rockwool) would indicate the mother plant was treated with a pesticide, but the clone purchased by the cultivator was not in direct contact with the contaminant.
Likewise, a low-level contamination in both the plant and growing medium can indicate that people might be recycling contaminated soil, Gaudino says.
“Those are the ones that never have to use pesticides ... because you were reusing a constant low-level feed because the soil was already contaminated and, as we know, it sticks around for a while,” he says.
Gaudino says the company’s research has focused on the San Francisco Bay area where it tested more than 50 samples. While the original sample size was relatively small by scientific standards, the findings showed “an overwhelming majority of them had contamination on them,” he says, warranting further study into the matter. In fact, his team was recently approved to acquire clones from the Los Angeles area to start measuring how widespread this problem is.
Other Options
In addition to testing the clones before or immediately after you purchase them, Gaudino suggests an alternative way around this issue: to grow from seeds instead of clones.
“That would reduce [the risk] a lot,” he says. “You may still have a little stuff in [the seed coating], but you’re taking a little tiny seed” instead of a cutting from a contaminated mother plant. He also suggests always using new soil and growing materials.
If growing from seed is not possible, Cloyd suggests using beneficial insects instead of chemical pesticides to deal with pest problems. “We have a number of predatory mites that are very effective,” Cloyd says, “Phytoseiulus persimilis is a work horse. … There is a wide gamut of potential biologicals that could be used in a cannabis production system.”
Organigram, for its part, completely revisited its processes following its crisis. In a Feb. 27 press release, the LP announced it now tests all inputs before they are used (growing mediums, fertilizers, water, etc.), has added security cameras to areas that were not previously required to be monitored, and live-tests plants for pesticides and tests again before they head to market, among other changes. Through these steps, company officials are confident this type of situation will not happen again.
But I really don't wanna mess it up and a lot of the stuff I read seems to not be dumb down for me to understand or maybe even step by step instructions for dummies on how to do it.
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50% isopropyl kills any pest/eggs etc in one soaking and is perfectly fine for plants, just cover the medium to keep out,..LOL i guess your picking on me..
Because you said nothing about what else was suggested .. LOL
Systemic Pesticides: Are Your Clones at Risk?
Failed pesticide tests might not be your fault, but they are your responsibility.
BRIAN MACIVER | MAY 2017
Eric Limon | Dreamstime.com
In the final days of 2016, Canadian licensed medical marijuana producer (LP) Organigram was rocked with a pesticide scandal: Batches of product made in 2016 tested positive for banned chemicals, including myclobutanil (a systemic pesticide that turns into hydrogen cyanide, a compound the Centers for Disease Control classifies as a chemical warfare agent, when burned).
The company issued a voluntary recall on Dec. 30 and expanded it less than two weeks later. An internal investigation into the matter yielded no conclusive evidence as to how these banned products made it into the cannabis, as Organigram was a certified organic cannabis producer. (The New Brunswick-based company had its certification suspended when news of the contamination broke.)
“The inquiry was thorough and was undertaken with the full cooperation and assistance of Health Canada and outside experts,” said Denis Arsenault, Organigram’s then CEO and now Executive Chairman, in a statement on Feb. 27.
How an LP, government authorities and outside experts were not able to find the source of the contamination is telling of the risks that come with systemic pesticides in the cannabis industry.
How They Work
Systemic pesticides are typically applied as a drench of the growing medium (soil, coco coir, peat moss with perlite, etc.) and are taken in by the plant through the roots, says Raymond Cloyd, a professor at the entomology department at Kansas State University, with specialties in horticultural entomology and plant protection.
When the roots take up the chemical, that active ingredient “moves through all the plant parts and, in some cases, it might move in the flowers, depending on the water solubility and general characteristics of that active ingredient,” Cloyd explains.
Myclobutanil is a common systemic fungicide and is used mainly to combat powdery mildew. Once applied to the growing medium, the main ingredient is moved through the plant’s water-conducting tissues (xylem) before being moved to the sugar-transporting tissues (phloem).
According to Cloyd, some of these systemic products may last up to 12 weeks in the plant’s system, which is why they have become a common part of horticulture and agriculture. He says their lasting effect makes them attractive because it “reduces the amount of input from spray applications.”
“However, there’s always an issue of getting into fruit or flower,” he continues, “and that’s why I don’t recommend them for fruits and vegetables, or any crop the fruit or the flower or, in the case of cannabis, the seed heads are going to be used for human inhalation or consumption.”
Low-Level vs. High-Level Contaminations
The very nature of systemic products and their absorption into the plant’s system poses a risk for cultivators who purchase and grow their crops from clones: Cuttings taken from a contaminated mother plant may also test positive for those chemicals.
Cloyd predicts that with herbaceous plants (such as cannabis), “if you applied a systemic insecticide … then a week later you take cuttings, depending on the solubility of the systemic ..., it probably would end up in those clones at some concentration.”
Reggie Gaudino is the vice president of scientific operations and director of intellectual property at Steep Hill Labs. His days are spent overseeing the genetic and quality testing at the cannabis testing company.
Photo courtesy of Steep Hill Labs
Steep Hill Labs, a California-based cannabis testing company, has been investigating pesticide issues in The Golden State. Following an outbreak of contaminated cannabis in California, Reggie Gaudino, vice president of scientific operations and director of intellectual property at Steep Hill, and his team met with growers who swore they never used pesticides, but had contaminated product. Following the thread, his team started testing clones bought from nurseries.
What they found: Pesticides are being used in various ways despite growers and nursery owners saying they were not using chemicals, according to Gaudino.
Steep Hill also discovered it could tell how the pesticide was applied based on the concentration levels and location of the contamination. For example, a low-level contamination in the plant with no contamination in the growing medium (soil or rockwool) would indicate the mother plant was treated with a pesticide, but the clone purchased by the cultivator was not in direct contact with the contaminant.
Likewise, a low-level contamination in both the plant and growing medium can indicate that people might be recycling contaminated soil, Gaudino says.
“Those are the ones that never have to use pesticides ... because you were reusing a constant low-level feed because the soil was already contaminated and, as we know, it sticks around for a while,” he says.
Gaudino says the company’s research has focused on the San Francisco Bay area where it tested more than 50 samples. While the original sample size was relatively small by scientific standards, the findings showed “an overwhelming majority of them had contamination on them,” he says, warranting further study into the matter. In fact, his team was recently approved to acquire clones from the Los Angeles area to start measuring how widespread this problem is.
Other Options
In addition to testing the clones before or immediately after you purchase them, Gaudino suggests an alternative way around this issue: to grow from seeds instead of clones.
“That would reduce [the risk] a lot,” he says. “You may still have a little stuff in [the seed coating], but you’re taking a little tiny seed” instead of a cutting from a contaminated mother plant. He also suggests always using new soil and growing materials.
If growing from seed is not possible, Cloyd suggests using beneficial insects instead of chemical pesticides to deal with pest problems. “We have a number of predatory mites that are very effective,” Cloyd says, “Phytoseiulus persimilis is a work horse. … There is a wide gamut of potential biologicals that could be used in a cannabis production system.”
Organigram, for its part, completely revisited its processes following its crisis. In a Feb. 27 press release, the LP announced it now tests all inputs before they are used (growing mediums, fertilizers, water, etc.), has added security cameras to areas that were not previously required to be monitored, and live-tests plants for pesticides and tests again before they head to market, among other changes. Through these steps, company officials are confident this type of situation will not happen again.
nothing works better,..
period!
and giving advice on what to do when you don’t even know the pest?? soil mites do not bother the plant just the soil and roots,.. so why should he spray his plants?,.
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ok let him help you,..
i’ll watch your plants get destroyed,..
i’ll watch your plants get destroyed,..
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I'm not doing anything to it till I figure out if these bugs r good or bad. I need help idk what bug it is and I figured experienced growers could help me identify and maybe even give me instructions on how to treat it, I can't identify what it is because I don't know bugs or anything about growing.
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I transplanted it and 2 days later I have these bugs drawing on the surface and underneath idk what to do. And it seems nobody really has a answer for me. It's not a clone it was grown from a seed. It inside my house in a vivosun grow tent, I haven't watered it in awhile it's not drenched, it had to have came from the soil.
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look the member does not have a clue about growing,. everything he posts is cut and paste and it is delusional,.. i’ve been watching him for a while,..
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Okay what would be you first step to the problem I have? I'm not picking favorites or anything I'm simply just gaining knowledge from everybody. I have the money to get whatever is needed to treat it. I just need someone experienced to tell me exactly what to do in a way I can understand. I'm not dumb but I'm not the smartest.
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What about food grade diatomaceous earth? Its very cheap, organic, gives extra silica to the plant overtime. Kills insects and larvae but doesnt bother good microorganisms, you wanna mix it well with the top layer of the soil when its dry. Important for the top layer to be dry or it wont do anything at all, but dont dry your plants, after a couple of days you can water like usual, all instects will be RIP.
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