Mikedin’s garden center, Let’s grow!

[Mikedin]

Beautiful plants

Thanks for the pics on the bending. For some reason I was imagining having to bend the whole plant from lower down but now you’ve done that it makes perfect sense.

When a plant gets that tall indoors do you ever need supplemental lighting down low? Or do the lower buds do ok as is?

I find they do pretty well, as long as you can keep some distance from the tops and keep enough power on them the light penetration is better with the lights at a farther distance than being too close also allows more reflection from the tent walls and floor to the lowers

And if you can see the ruler I was at 63” pre wiring and wen down to near 55” after so I gained near 8” of distance from the lights not to mention raising the lights as well

Yea you can bend them lower but at this point the mains are so stiff they’d snap, the knuckles on the topping points below are literally bigger than the knuckles on my hands, the me thing I did find is you want to be super careful when you start LST’ing topped plants, they love to split at the crotch of the topping, sometimes I’ll run a single wire between both of them but when I do that it spreads them lower on the nodes putting more pressure on the knuckle, if you do it this way it leaves no stress on the knuckle, but doing them as a single provide more support later, if you want to do that I suggest making a double looped piece of wire and securing the 2 nodes together about 2-3” above the knuckle that way the support comes form the wire and resists splitting the knuckle in half

And thank you! These plants are making me very happy they are coming along great, just about blemish free leaves minus where a few that were ups giant the walls of the 4x4 in veg for that extra month but I’ll leave them on for now it’s just a Few browned leaf edges down lower can barely find them in these canopies lol

 

[SpursGrower]

Love it, thanks.

Are those frostettes particularly big plants or do most get to that size even when topped? I’m just trying to get some ideas together for my first photo grow.

 

[Mikedin]

Love it, thanks.

Are those frostettes particularly big plants or do most get to that size even when topped? I’m just trying to get some ideas together for my first photo grow.

It’s mostly dependent on indica / sativa lineage but at the end of the day. It all comes down to how long you veg them, these seeds hit the soil on 4/1 and were up potted on 6/16 and flipped to 12/12 topping will help keep them shorter but will get wider, another issue if you’re running in a small tent they’ll get mashed together and impede airflow and increase your chandlers of mold and diseases forming and transferring to eachother

Learning When to flip will be your biggest challenge to conquer, you always wanna go bigger but gotta remember that stretch, I know these frostettes like to stretch approx 18-20”, other strains I’ve grown have gone from half that to about the same

I also find the longer a plant vegges and the more mature it gets before flipping the less it stretches (not a ton less but about 1/4 less stretch)

Below you can see how they looked on flip day, they were at 48” 16 days later I hit 63” and still stretching, which is why I bent the tops, stretch is about done but I wanted to get some distance from the tops before the mains finished stiffening up I preparation for heavy buds

 

[SpursGrower]

It’s mostly dependent on indica / sativa lineage but at the end of the day. It all comes down to how long you veg them, these seeds hit the soil on 4/1 and were up potted on 6/16 and flipped to 12/12 topping will help keep them shorter but will get wider, another issue if you’re running in a small tent they’ll get mashed together and impede airflow and increase your chandlers of mold and diseases forming and transferring to eachother

Learning When to flip will be your biggest challenge to conquer, you always wanna go bigger but gotta remember that stretch, I know these frostettes like to stretch approx 18-20”, other strains I’ve grown have gone from half that to about the same

I also find the longer a plant vegges and the more mature it gets before flipping the less it stretches (not a ton less but about 1/4 less stretch)

Below you can see how they looked on flip day, they were at 48” 16 days later I hit 63” and still stretching, which is why I bent the tops, stretch is about done but I wanted to get some distance from the tops before the mains finished stiffening up I preparation for heavy buds

Thanks I will have about 3x3x6.5ft so will just do the 1 (not sure on strain)

 

[Mikedin]

Thanks I will have about 3x3x6.5ft so will just do the 1 (not sure on strain)

Yeah a 3x3 I’d do a single plant, you should no problem being wall to wall, you can easily run 4 in it with a quicker flip, i believe @SchwiftyGrower uses a 3x3 with a viparspectra KS3000if I’m not mistaken, and schwifty does some immaculate grows

 

[SpursGrower]

Yeah a 3x3 I’d do a single plant, you should no problem being wall to wall, you can easily run 4 in it with a quicker flip, i believe @SchwiftyGrower uses a 3x3 with a viparspectra KS3000if I’m not mistaken, and schwifty does some immaculate grows

Thanks I will check them out

 

[Mikedin]

Morning pics after the bend over, 24 hours ish, and it’s like nothing ever happened we’re on day 17 now I believe, checking lowers and they are looking flawless

Cruise control

 

[SchwiftyGrower]

Yeah a 3x3 I’d do a single plant, you should no problem being wall to wall, you can easily run 4 in it with a quicker flip, i believe @SchwiftyGrower uses a 3x3 with a viparspectra KS3000if I’m not mistaken, and schwifty does some immaculate grows

Awe shucks you’re making me blush!

@SpursGrower options are pretty broad in a 3x3. Really depends on your veg time like Mike said. I usually go for 4 plants in 3 gallon pots, and veg for 30-40 days. Trellis nets help a lot, and if you get more comfortable you can help manage vertical space by ScroG. This run I’m doing 15 directly from clone and flipping after 15 days of veg. Let’s see how overgrown it’ll become muahhahaha

 

[Mikedin]

Awe shucks you’re making me blush!

@SpursGrower options are pretty broad in a 3x3. Really depends on your veg time like Mike said. I usually go for 4 plants in 3 gallon pots, and veg for 30-40 days. Trellis nets help a lot, and if you get more comfortable you can help manage vertical space by ScroG. This run I’m doing 15 directly from clone and flipping after 15 days of veg. Let’s see how overgrown it’ll become muahhahaha

Anytime fam your runs are always clean and done right!

 

[Mikedin]

Garden tour!

Frostette F1 was chopped, found male parts, no bueno, replaced with the hydra plant lickity split

F2 looking right and huge so far, keeping an eye out

 

[Captspaulding]

Garden tour!

Frostette F1 was chopped, found male parts, no bueno, replaced with the hydra plant lickity split

F2 looking right and huge so far, keeping an eye out

Yeah I had a really beast genetic herm pop up in mine as well All the rest were money af though, did mom give you any issues?

 

[Mikedin]

Yeah I had a really beast genetic herm pop up in mine as well All the rest were money af though, did mom give you any issues?

Of the cali blues? Nah this was the mom I figured throw her in I have 2 clones of her in the crawlspace lab doing good so figured let’s run her again! I’ll cut off the F1 graft and maybe leave the F2 graft on her to flower we’ll see lol

I’ve ran what 8 clones and have given away maybe 30 clones of her everyone loves the pheno with that blueberry, and I’ve only ran her in 3’s and 5’s can’t wait to see how she does in this 12 gal lol, it’s the flower mix and it’s only what 17 days old so I figured get her in it and put her right into flower and let her stretch her feet and hair all at once lol

Fingers crossed with the F2 Frostette the clone stood up so I have her backed up fingers crossed she’s money!

 

[Captspaulding]

Of the cali blues? Nah this was the mom I figured throw her in I have 2 clones of her in the crawlspace lab doing good so figured let’s run her again! I’ll cut off the F1 graft and maybe leave the F2 graft on her to flower we’ll see lol

I’ve ran what 8 clones and have given away maybe 30 clones of her everyone loves the pheno with that blueberry, and I’ve only ran her in 3’s and 5’s can’t wait to see how she does in this 12 gal lol

No I was speaking on frostette.
Great strain. 1 hiccup, caught waaaaay in time.


And thanks on the CB love bro. I really want that pheno you found. It’s just bonkers.

Fingers crossed with the F2 Frostette the clone stood up so I have her backed up fingers crossed she’s money!

 

[Mikedin]

We’ll see how she’s does this pheno has had the purple and hasent dependent on temps but has kept the blueberry, im smoking on some of the CB2 the other pheno I had and it’s just way different, no blueberry, looks different, looser buds than the CB1 glad I kept that freak around

I have 2 clones of her atm, if I had more time I’d spray one of them down, but I’ll probably flower them together and Collidal one of them, just to backcross, but I’ll let them veg out so I can get a new clone before I do that

She’s on the 4th generation since the seed plant wonder how many can be done before she loses something

 

[Captspaulding]

We’ll see how she’s does this pheno has had the purple and hasent dependent on temps but has kept the blueberry, im smoking on some of the CB2 the other pheno I had and it’s just way different, no blueberry, looks different, looser buds than the CB1 glad I kept that freak around

I have 2 clones of her atm, if I had more time I’d spray one of them down, but I’ll probably flower them together and Collidal one of them, just to backcross, but I’ll let them veg out so I can get a new clone before I do that

She’s on the 4th generation since the seed plant wonder how many can be done before she loses something

You know man, I’m not sure I believe in clone gen degradation, I’ve kept some cuttings around for a couple years, never had a complaint from homies in the stony dept at least. I def don’t keep cuttings around too long anymore since I breed. I always prefer the seed.

 

[Captspaulding]

You know man, I’m not sure I believe in clone gen degradation, I’ve kept some cuttings around for a couple years, never had a complaint from homies in the stony dept at least. I def don’t keep cuttings around too long anymore since I breed. I always prefer the seed.

I could be flat out wrong too.


I’m an idiot hahaaha

 

[Mikedin]

You know man, I’m not sure I believe in clone gen degradation, I’ve kept some cuttings around for a couple years, never had a complaint from homies in the stony dept at least. I def don’t keep cuttings around too long anymore since I breed. I always prefer the seed.

I guess we’ll see! The hydra was 4th gen I believe, I’ll backcross with the 2x 5th gen clones most likely, I’ll probably spray to reverse in a few weeks once she has a decent amount of nodes I’ll just spray half of one maybe, once pollen is ready I’ll collect it and pollinate the other half and save the other one as a mother, idk hahai do have the 4x4 available now though lol, it does have a carbon filter on it how safe will I be withthe 4x8 next to it if I reverse a clone (small in a 1 gallon pot probably) to collect the pollen, think I’d pollinate the 4x8?

 

[Captspaulding]

I guess we’ll see! The hydra was 4th gen I believe, I’ll backcross with the 2x 5th gen clones most likely, I’ll probably spray to reverse in a few weeks once she has a decent amount of nodes I’ll just spray half of one maybe, once pollen is ready I’ll collect it and pollinate the other half and save the other one as a mother, idk hahai do have the 4x4 available now though lol, it does have a carbon filter on it how safe will I be withthe 4x8 next to it if I reverse a clone (small in a 1 gallon pot probably) to collect the pollen, think I’d pollinate the 4x8?

Just turn you vent fan up a few clicks then the intake down a few heat spike sure but your breeding it who cares.
You know, to where it just start sucking in you tent walls. You can also hang a bed sheet and spray it with water in the tent side to catch any wily pollen you can.
You will be fine with some crafty doohickeys. I added a few things on the edit. Sorry man. I’m all thumbs today

 

[Captspaulding]

Wet sheet for when it open of coarse.
Just want to vcreatr as much negative pressure in the colloidal tent.

 

[Captspaulding]

Just turn you vent fan up a few clicks then the intake down a few heat spike sure but your breeding it who cares.
You know, to where it just start sucking in you tent walls. You can also hang a bed sheet and spray it with water in the tent side to catch any wily pollen you can.
You will be fine with some crafty doohickeys. I added a few things on the edit. Sorry man. I’m all thumbs today

@Mikedin added some stuff, it was very unclear