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I think I am going to go with the 28L then, because I have to fill a 4 plant space with 3 so I will stick with the 28L I have for this grow then. Now that I am using LEDs maybe I should consider fabric pots again. I ran DE HPS at 750w minimum, and that + how dry my areas is = it dried my pots out too much and caused me issues. But that may not be such an issue with LED lighting, so I am considering the change back.I went from 20 liters regular textile pots and this last grow I changed to 25L TUBULAR textile pots. Not only I have more space in the tent now but they grow way better and bigger! I have a leaf that is as big as my head hahaha. Consider that too, the bigger the pot the bigger the plants, and tubular pots are great, roots love growin downwards more than they do horizontally.
Yes I do have a water fed product line that is meant to feed the soil, and I have been using them, but I am making lots of silly mistakes haha so it might not look like I am doing anything right this round. I have powdered products, and one of them is a kelp/seaweed and hormone product/"plant tonic", as well as something similar for flower of course, and inoculant products for veg and flower. Ontop of that I have top dressing products that are more directly for feeding, but I only just gave it to them, a little late though. I should have put the top dressing in 5 days ago.Also are you giving them any types of hormones? They help a ton when youre growing in big pots. I use hemplex from trabe which is a kelp concentrate made in a way that it preserves most of the hormones with a cold process. There's also alfa boost which comes with hormones, microorganisms and also many other goodies, alfa boost is GOOD but I dont know if you guys have it there. The hormones I mention are, of course, natural and organic, nothing of those synthetic shitty hormones that make your buds feel like a sponge and taste like shit.
Careful with it though, too much and that pot will never dry back… Experience is …. Experience hahaha, but yes it’s great for water retention especially if you’re running outdoors it’ll keep those pots from drying back in 24 hoursOh, about the pots drying too quick, you can add vermiculite. Its excelent at holding moisture and good for the soil aswell, so good at holding moisture and so sterile that is used to grow mushrooms! Of course many weed growers also use it, you probably already knew it existed before I mentioned.
I am 100% new to living soil, so their components and ingredients aren't as fresh to me as say training information, so next grow I will try that. My problem was my globes kept things even dryer than they were already, and my pots would dry out from both the heat from the globes and the dry air, and one time mid flower I had to do a medium flush because of build up via evaporation despite 20% runoff watering. But I was running a pretty strong globe. Heat was always a massive issue for me. I am coming to learn why LEDs are so different to grow with. They have a completely different effect on my grow environment. Maybe fabric pots are back on the menu.Oh, about the possibility of the pots drying to quick if you swap to textile pots, you can add vermiculite. Its excelent at holding moisture and good for the soil aswell, so good at holding moisture and so sterile that is used to grow mushrooms! Of course many weed growers also use it, you probably already knew it existed before I mentioned.
Thankfully I am in the camp of under-doing somethingCareful with it though, too much and that pot will never dry back… Experience is …. Experience hahaha, but yes it’s great for water retention especially if you’re running outdoors it’ll keep those pots from drying back in 24 hours
They look fine to me! But of course more years of experience will bring better yields. As for the question about LEDs and textile pots, yes LEDs usually produce less heat but you should have a thermoygrometer in the tent to check temperatures and humidity anyway. If the humidity is low and temperature is high then you could definetely use some vermiculite. If you start by using 10% of the total volume of the substrare being vermiculite its a safe start, you wont cause overwatering problems. If you need more because they still dry too quick, you can go to 20% vermiculite. I dont need vermiculite but I still add it because of the ionic exchange that happens in the soil. Vermiculite attracts possitively charged ions so its gonna act as a nutrient buffer for your roots, its always good to add some but in my case is more perlite than vermiculite because otherwise my pots would take way too long to dry (I live in a humid area).I am 100% new to living soil, so their components and ingredients aren't as fresh to me as say training information, so next grow I will try that. My problem was my globes kept things even dryer than they were already, and my pots would dry out from both the heat from the globes and the dry air, and one time mid flower I had to do a medium flush because of build up via evaporation despite 20% runoff watering. But I was running a pretty strong globe. Heat was always a massive issue for me. I am coming to learn why LEDs are so different to grow with. They have a completely different effect on my grow environment. Maybe fabric pots are back on the menu.
These were some of my old flowering fabric pot grows I saved, I used them for years until I upped my light wattage above 600w. You might notice I still like to use paperclips for LST securing haha. I didn't top much at all back then, all I did was keep the top of the plant tied down constantly and my plants did the rest. Ignore the chaos of the 2nd image haha. These pictures are from like 2017-2018 and I was still figuring out what to do.
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Would you say that LED lights effect fabric pots differently in terms of evaporation etc?
Thankfully I am in the camp of under-doing somethingas you can see by 2 of my poor plants begging me for food lol. I will remember "less is more" in this case, thank you for the advice you guys!
Thank you for the kind words! I am pretty happy to see them bounce back too. I was a bit worried for a week or so there. There are still remnants of my mistake, but I am not going to defoliate any slightly ugly leaves unless they look like a problem. So forgive a few shitty leaves haha.It is great to see your girls are thriving and looking healthier!
Hey there thank you so much for the tips! Nutrition when it comes to living soil is totally new to me, all I had to do with coco was follow a PDF guide with exact dosages, but we all have to start somewhere lol. 1 week ago I gave them a top dress, BUT, this was only a dose for 1 gallon as they were in 1 gallon pots, I did NOT apply a 28 litre dose when I transplanted them. Would you suggest mixing in top dress? I used handfuls of soil to cover the top soil, so it would be SUPER easy for me to scoop that loose soil back, apply the top dress, then cover it up and wait for next water. Right now I believe I may have to wait around 1 week for the pot to fully dry out.Huge improvement! They look way better now, congrats man! If anything, they seem like they could eat more and since you want them to grow I would up the dosage a bit
You got it, partner! I will defoliate the really large fan leaves that are being light deprived. I will also pay close attention to leaves already being eaten too.Also I would remove all the fan leaves that are completely shadowed. You dont need em and they are taking resources (the bigger the leaf the more it costs for the plant to mantain it)
I think you are onto something here, there is 1 plant in particular that was hungrier than the other 2, but the other 2 did also show lower leaves turning yellow and eating themselves before I top dressed a week ago. The new growth is happy which makes me happy. Would you suggest applying a proper dosage for 28 litres evenly around the whole pot (perhaps minus the table spoon dose I already top dressed with)?Forgot something important that can be confused with using too much nutes. If the tips are only yellowing and browning on the top of the canopy its most likely caused by light stress, while if its random instead of only on the top of the canopy its probably nutes.
Yes it would be minus 1 dose for this instance, as it was very recently added. Many handfuls of top soil is loose so I scooped back until the soil was damp and applied 4 table spoons of top dress and 1 table spoon of mineral composite then mixed it in. I didn't water it in as I watered only a few days ago when I transplanted and its still damp a few inches below so it probably wont do much good until I next water, but its mixed in.Hmm okay yeah, so what I would do is add that top dressing well mixed with the top soil minus what you fed them already (unless it was 2 week ago or more, in which case go full dosage).
Thank you man I appreciate the kind advice. I have done as you said. I increased the light from 30% to 40% (200w now) and I will begin to gradually increase it every couple of days.Lights are too far and dimmed, impossible to have light stress like that I agree. I would put them closer or give more intensity though, I understand you not wanting to overwhelm them but its time, specially before they change to flower so they can addapt.
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